St. Stan’s – What’s up?
As you may know, I have been following the events at St. Stanislaus Parish in St. Louis for some time. Because of my personal history with church closings and my membership in the PNCC the issues raised there resonate with me.
I came across this posting over at Catholic World News. They were posting on Fr. Marek Bozek’s appearance at the installation of a pastor in a St. Louis area church which styles itself as the —Ecumenical Catholic Church—
I cried. Sts. Clare and Francis, it appears, belongs to something called the Ecumenical Catholic Communion, which received its warrant of apostolic succession from the Old Catholics of Utrecht, along with an accredited degree in refrigerator repair at the same low price. SCF’s pastor, unsurprisingly, is a partnered gay man who used to be a Catholic priest, and who’s done a great job of coaching his flock that it is they who sit in judgment of the Gospel, and not vice-versa. Parishioner Jessica Rowley gushes:
Now just to clear things up for the sake of accuracy:
The —Ecumenical Catholic Church (ECC)— is not a member of the Old Catholic Churches in the Utrecht Union. Their membership directory makes no mention of the ECC. As a matter of fact, the only North American Church that was a member of Utrecht was the PNCC. Thankfully, once Utrecht went all innovative with gay marriages and women priests the PNCC said goodbye.
As of today, there is one North American parish, a former PNCC parish, in Toronto Canada, that is a parish under the jurisdiction of the International Bishop’s Conference of Utrecht.
Generally, these American churches are churches that style themselves as Old Catholic, Liberal Catholic, etc. and trace their way back to Episcopal vagantes like Joseph Rene Vilatte, Arnold Hans Mathew, Carmel Henry Carfora, William Francis Brothers, etal.
In my opinion, Fr. Bozek is reaching. I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, but he is so far outside the mainstream by cavorting with people who are heretics and self obsessed that I could not see myself as being supportive of that.
I began to get suspicious when I heard he was creating more —Special Ministers of Holy Communion— at his parish (nooooooooo!). That action, coupled with his statements about the ECC show him to be just another N.O. created ‘do whatever feels right’ cleric.
I would hope that the Board at St. Stans sets him back on the road to traditional Catholicism, be it Roman Catholic, PNCC, Orthodox, or SSPX. The faithfulness of the St. Stan’s parishioners will be harmed a second time by yet another clergyman who cannot see the beyond his own ego.
And, when did our catechesis begin turning out non-Catholics?
The following are excerpts from an article at the Times Newspapers Online about the ECC pastor’s installation, the history of this church, and Fr. Bozek’s appearance:
Sts. Clare & Francis
Ecumenical Catholics establish Parish in Webster Groves
by Fran ManninoSts. Clare and Francis Parish was welcomed into the fold of the Ecumenical Catholic Communion on Saturday, Feb. 25, during a celebratory Mass at its borrowed home, Evangelical United Church of Christ in Webster Groves.
“Inclusivity” is a word that resonates with the ECC, and is what distinguishes it from the more traditional Roman Catholic Church.
The clergy of the ECC are a prime example of these beliefs in action. The newly-elected pastor of Sts. Clare and Francis, Rev. Francis Krebs, is an openly gay former Roman Catholic priest. ECC presiding bishop Peter Hickman is the married father of five.
Sts. Clare and Francis parish currently has two women pursuing the deaconate and priesthood, Jessica Rowley and Lisa von Stamwitz.In The Beginning
The ECC is a group of independent Catholic faith communities with roots in the Old Catholic Church. The Old Catholic Church separated itself from the Roman Catholic Church in 1870, in rejection of the First Vatican Council’s decree of Papal Infallibility, and other church dogma.
“Most of the clergy who are part of the ECC are former Roman Catholic clergy,” said Hickman. “I was raised in the American Baptist Church, and ordained a baptist minister in 1979.”
Three years later Hickman converted to Catholicism through the Old Catholic Church. He founded St. Matthew Church in Orange, Calif., in 1985, and became a bishop in 1996.
“I began to have contact with other independent Catholic faith communities and Roman Catholic clergy who wanted to look at another way of being Catholic,” he said. “That’s how the ECC came into being. We’re about 21 communities at this time across the nation, and continuing to grow.”
Sts. Clare and Francis
“Sts. Clare and Francis has been around in a formative stage for slightly more than a year,” said Rev. Krebs. “Our first eucharist together was on the 23rd of October, 2004.”
Inclusion is evident even in the name parishioners chose for their parish – that of St. Francis of Assisi, a man, and St. Clare of Assisi, a woman. The two were contemporaries in the 13th century, and are important figures in Catholic history.
In his former calling as a Roman Catholic priest, Krebs served as pastor of St. Peter and Paul Catholic Church in Soulard for 13 years. Although he left the priesthood in 1990, he missed the ministry.
“I’m a gay man, and have been in a committed relationship for the past seven-and-a-half years,” he said. “That’s a primary feature in my life, and I didn’t want to leave that. I thought, ‘How can I be a priest and still live as a gay man?'”
Krebs began searching for options. He looked to the Episcopal church, a community he admired, but soon found what he calls a “more cultural fit” within the Ecumenical Catholic Communion.
Krebs, along with another ECC priest, Bob Blattner, began forming a faith community that eventually became the parish of Sts. Clare and Francis. The congregation now has approximately 50 registered members, with about one-third of them coming from the Webster-Kirkwood area.
“We would love to be able to have our own space, and when we grow I presume we will,” said Krebs. “At the moment, we are very grateful to the Evangelical United Church of Christ.”
Sts. Clare and Francis draws parishioners from all over the St. Louis area. Acting president of the parish council, George von Stamwitz, lives in the Lafayette Square neighborhood of St. Louis.
“We’re trying to grow, develop ministries, and be a lively, functioning church,” he said. “Within the next couple of years, we hope to certainly have another ordained person, and also hope to have space of our own.”
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“The Catholic Perestroika”
Bishop Hickman spends part of his time traveling the country, speaking to lay Catholics and Catholic reform organizations about the ECC.
While in St. Louis he spoke with local and visiting clergy, including Rev. Marek Bozek, pastor of St. Stanislaus Kostka Church.
Bozek was recently excommunicated from the Roman Catholic Church for his efforts to minister to the parishioners of St. Stanislaus, which is battling with the Archdiocese of St. Louis over control of the church.
“I wish Sts. Clare and Francis all the best, and congratulate the new pastor and the new candidates for ordination,” said Bozek. “I wish there was a way that Sts. Clare and Francis could be part of the Roman Catholic Church, because I believe that what they are doing is very Catholic.”
Bozek received a standing ovation from celebrants at the installation Mass for Sts. Clare and Francis, but said he was not there looking for options for either himself or St. Stanislaus.
“I hope and I pray that there will be a day when there will be room in the Roman Catholic Church for diverse communities such as Sts. Clare and Francis,” he said. “The purpose of theology is to bring God’s word to a new generation of people. The message does not change; how we proclaim this message and the means we use has to change.”
“It’s an issue of justice,” said Hickman. “The church needs to be a voice of hope for the future, rather than looking like an antiquated institution dragging us back to the past. If the church is the people of God, let the people have a voice.
“The Catholic faith tradition is much larger than the Roman Catholic hierarchy, or the Roman Catholic Church,” he added. “We need to put our emphasis on the Gospel of Jesus, rather than canon law. We’re the Catholic Perestroika.”
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oh were, oh were, have our morals gone, oh where, oh where, can they be?
I always find it interesting in describing Old Catholics and the PNCC. I, like you, am very glad for the decision of the PNCC to break off from the Old Catholics. However, I do feel it is important to let people know that there is NO official Old Catholic (Utrecht) Church in the U.S. These claims by many retain apostolic succession through the OCC is false, and in the eyes of many who don’t know better, puts these churches (the ECC) on the same plane as the PNCC which they ARE NOT! Thank you for you clarification of this, hopefully many people will read this and be enlightened.
Vagantes have a tangled, train-wreck fascinating history of about 125 years (see Peter Anson’s Bishops at Large): a cautionary tale for those of us who are high-church and opposed by folks in the mainstream. They show what not to believe or do!
Thanks for the info that there is still a real Old Catholic presence in North America, for what it’s worth, only not in the US.
I agree that Fr Bozek, on top of disobeying his bishop and fomenting a schism (even though the ordinary seems to be acting like an ass), showed bad judgement by associating himself with this dodgy group.
St Stan’s issues aren’t liberal vs conservative and are nothing to do with poor Fr Krebs’ problems.
Episcopalians can be wacky but they do things ‘decently and in order’, a culture shock for somebody coming from the Novus Ordo! (Honestly, there is a social-class difference: Episcopalians are upper-middle-class WASPs.) Which is why the Krebs types don’t all simply join the Episcopal Church. And that church has, like, rules and stuff about having to go to a seminary and who does and doesn’t get ordained, which in theory deters unsuitable priest wannabes.
BTW, it’s Arnold Harris Mathew. A sometime real OC bishop who broke away, he started one of those ‘lines of succession’ that vagantes rabbit on about.
Incidentally there are priests in the Anglican Communion who can claim Rome-recognised succession indirectly through him. Before the 1930 Bonn agreement that brought Anglicans and OCs into communion, one of the bishops he made, Austrian Prince Rudolph de Landes Berghes, participated in some Anglican episcopal consecrations.
He also made Carmel Henry Carfora, an Italian ex-Franciscan priest, a bishop.
These men like to hang around the fringes of the Anglican Communion. At one point in Vilatte’s career he went around furtively ‘validating’ (re-ordaining) Anglican priests who questioned their own orders after Pope Leo XIII ruled negatively on them.
A lot of these groups are, to quote Thomas Case, ‘annulment mills and havens for morally sick Catholics’ as the gay ‘Ecumenical Catholic Church’ shows.
Beyond the spectrum from liberal to outwardly conservative and weird mixtures of these, I’ve read that these little churches roughly fall into two groups in America. (I think there are far fewer still in England thanks to the legal establishment of the Church of England, which may have helped squelch Mathew.)
Those in the Carfora ‘tradition’ tend to be real ministers (though wrong about some things), perhaps originally from big, recognised churches (usually RC or Anglican), with seminary degrees in charge of real congergations. Some are stable, doing this for decades. As I’ve said before I can respect that as somehow real, just like the Protestant church down the road, even though I don’t agree with it.
Those in the Vilatte ‘line’ tend to be those with no training and no real ministry playing Mass at home.
It seems safe to treat all such orders as invalid. (I understand that if they were bought – at least some of these dodgy bishops sell their services – then they are!)
The Orthodox approach – ‘if it’s outside our communion, succession is meaningless’ – is appealing in comparison but they have their own free-lancers, and I don’t mean those Westerners who, having driven the OC label into the mud, now call themselves Orthodox because they have a vague idea that it means non-papal and high-church. (There are gay churches that play this game!)
Actual Eastern vagantes (and these are started by ethnics, not converts) come in two versions: nationalist schisms (Macedonia, the Ukraine) and extreme true-believer sects (Old Calendarist splits from the Greeks, repeating the history of the Russian Old Believers).
The PNCC now seem to be in a similar position as the better of the Continuing Anglicans – basically sound, real little congregations, staying clear of vagante silliness but stranded in sectarianism where they don’t belong.
Are the PNCC and parts of the Continuum in communion like the pre-1977 Episcopal Church?
I have heard the same about the difference between the Carfora succession churches and the Vilatte churches.
I do not know too much about the Old Believers – although they seem fascinating to me. I know they have a substantial presence in Eastern Poland, generally along the Belorussian border. I’ve heard some of their chants etc. – they are beautiful.
To the best of my knowledge (99.5% sure) there is no relationship between the PNCC and the Continuing Anglicans or and other branch of the Anglicans.
In my opinion the problems comes down to the validity of Anglican orders and the lack of a singular coherent voice to have discussions with. I think that as the Anglicans split and disintegrate they will loose whatever ecclesiology they do have, making finding a voice more difficult. It will take a very long time for anything to redevelop.
The saddest part of it is that there will be far too few who will cross the Tiber, attach themselves to Orthodoxy, or come to the PNCC. Many will try, but the few who succeed will be those who have the grace of genuine humility. They will need to wash out all their preconceived protestant notions and accept Catholicism fully.
As long as I’m offering opinions, I think that is why the catechetical process, and time needed for entering Orthodoxy is a far better model. By the time a person is ready they are indeed ready. That is why the ‘new and improved’ Open Hearts, Open Minds, Open Doors policies of most protestant churches does not work.
i attended mass at a parish of the Anglican Church in America which is part of the Traditional Anglican Communion. The priest there told me that the ACIA is in communion with the PNCC. However, I have been hard pressed to find an accurate representation of who is in communion with the PNCC. peace.
Thanks. I hadn’t heard of any such agreement either.
St Mark’s Church, Denver, is an ex-Episcopal church about 100 years old (not in the same building – they lost it when they left the Episcopalians) that tried being in the PNCC but say they found it exclusively ethnic, IIRC, so they’ve been Western Rite Orthodox under Antioch for some time. Blogger Benjamin Andersen is a member.
There’s also the Duarte succession, fairly recent (ex-RC bishop in 1940s Brazil), which has changed into more small heterodox or simply schismatic churches but also has passed on its orders to an arguably real denomination, the Charismatic Episcopal Church, who are Pentecostals who’ve become do-it-yourself Anglicans (they never were in the Anglican Communion).
That’s a good question: who is in full communion with the PNCC? I know there’s limited intercommunion with Rome where born PNCCs can receive from the RCs if there isn’t a PNCC church nearby, and vice versa.
The issue of intercommunion is complex. It gets to the issue of sacramental sharing and the errors that can come from a lack of good catechesis. The R.C. Church under John Paul II outlined their take on the matter in Dominus Iesus, specifically IV, 17:
The PNCC would be considered a “true particular Church” by this standard.
You might want to look at a posting I did back in August 2005, titled “Our Eucharistic Need“.
The article outlines my understanding of the PNCC position on intercommunion and a general attitude to the Eucharist as Christ’s gift for our need.
The R.C. Code of Canon Law outlines who may/may not receive communion in the R.C. Church. The mere fact that a person may does not acknowledge intercommunion in the true sense of the word.
I am not an expert of the rules within Orthodoxy, but I believe persons who are members of true Orthodoxy may receive the Eucharist at other Orthodox Churches. Those who are not Orthodox may not.
As such, there is no true intercommunion in any real sense between Churches and by that I mean only those Churches with valid sacraments and Apostolic succession.
Adam, you might want to look at Anglicanism’s take on what the Eucharist is.
I know how gray the theology of the eucharist is for the anglicans. However, until i move back to pennsylvania, the only choices for churches for me right now are the TAC, Episcopal, Lutheran and UCC. I cannot wait to be amongst PNCC parishes in scranton.
Adam,
I realize that to be away is difficult. You are in my prayers this Lent.
Dcn. Jim
i will admit that i am new to the PNCC and have attended services less than a dozen times, however, i felt at home the first time i went to a PNCC parish. I have been living the life of a Catholic in a protestant church for a long time. I am happy to have found a truly Catholic Church that has a democratic structure and allows married clergy. after i married i thought my call would magically disapear. well it didnt. ECUSA was not able to feed me spiritualy and i felt lost with no other options for a church home. I am very grateful to the PNCC and Prime Bishop Nemkovich for hearing my story and taking the time to invite me to imbrace the faith of the PNCC.
That being said, while I was looking into some Catholic alternatives, many “Bishops” claim to be in communion with the PNCC, however, I know this not to be true. I hope that as the dust settles around ECUSA there may be an opportunity for discussion amongs the PNCC and some of the Orthodox Anglican churches. There are some Anglican parishes that are “Catholic” they just use a prayer book. I think it is also important for the PNCC to spread the word that there is an alternative to Rome in the United States and it is not a liberal movement. I pray for the strength and growth of the Polish National Catholic Church. And I thank you for praying for me this Lenten season. God’s peace.